An interview with Robert and Elizabeth Bjork

Craig Barton’s brilliant maths podcast has hosted some inspirational and influential education thought-leaders in its time including Dylan William, Bruno Reddy and Dan Meyer. His most recent episode takes it to a new level, having secured a 2-hour interview with Robert and Elizabeth Bjork! In a wide-ranging interview about learning, forgetting and memory, Craig and the Bjorks explore both the theory and what it all means for classroom practice.

A great in-depth piece for anyone interested in learning vs performance and desirable difficulties.

Listen here:


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